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Anonymous
05-12-2004, 02:40 PM
this is pure unbiased well analysed b-school rankings
1.iim a
2.iim b
3.iim c
4,5-iiml or xlri subjective
6.fms
7.jbims
8.iift
9,10.nitie or s.p.jain subjective
11-15.mdi,iit som,iim i, iimk depending on your choice
on may differ but i think it is an honest effort

Anonymous
05-12-2004, 02:45 PM
Well researched and authentic ranking Sumeet. Though I believe segregating institutes in clusters of A+,A,B+ and so on would be a better preposition whereby institutes in a particular cluster are equally good.
Modifying your rankings makes ranks 1-5 in cluster A+.

6-15 in A. Which is better amongst them? is a very subjective question and will always vary from a student's perspective as per his/her personal career goals and targets. For e.g. a person interested in pursuing a career in International business should give IIFT priority over maybe an XL or FMS or likes.

Anonymous
05-12-2004, 02:52 PM
its another question whetehr Bt rankings r trust worthy or not .......but whr the hell did XL came into top 5 ........
and thr r ample no. of bakwaas MBA colleges tht didnt participated in ranking ....

aur XL wale participate kar ke bhi kya ukhadd lete ........so never compare XL to ne of the IIMS dude....for tht matter not evn to IIM-I or K ...

IIM IIM hota hain ....

Anonymous
05-12-2004, 02:55 PM
WAAH ek aur!! Now, lemme guess which shitty place r u frm... hmm.. IIFT , JBIMS???? grtt work dude; since u ppl can't bring u'r schools on top by using brains u resort to such cheap methods.. Carry on the gud work. But ppl know where these shitpots of intis stand!!!

Anonymous
05-13-2004, 03:39 PM
whts this coll ? is it in trichy..please advice

Anonymous
05-13-2004, 04:13 PM
It's in timbaktooo... From there, to the top 5 of these so called"""Authentic rankings"""".. This guy did not even bother to think wht kinda laughing stock he'll make of himself... He ..He.. He...

Anonymous
05-14-2004, 06:16 PM
Top League

The Indian Institutes of Management (A, B, C, L, I, K)
Xavier Labour Relations Institute, Jamshedpur (XLRI)
Indian Institute of Foreign Trade, Delhi (IIFT)
Faculty of Management Studies, Delhi (FMS)
SP Jain institute of Management Research, Mumbai (SPJIMR)
National Institute of Technology and Industrial Engineering, Mumbai (NITIE)
Jamnalal Bajaj Institute of Management Studies, Mumbai (JBIMS)

Next League

Management Development Institute, Gurgaon (MDI)
Xavier’s Institute of Management, Bhubaneshwar (XIM)
The IIT - Schools of Management (B, D, Kgp, M, K) & IISc - Bangalore
Symbiosis Centre for Management & Human Research Development, Pune (SCMHRD)

Excellent

Narsee Monjee Institute of Management Studies, Mumbai (NMIMS)
TA Pai Management Institute, Manipal (TAPMI)
Institute of Management & Technology, Ghaziabad (IMT)
Nirma Institute of Management, Ahmedabad (NIM)
International Management Institute, Delhi (IMI)
KJ Somaiya institute of Management Studies, Mumbai ( KJSom)
University Business School, Chandigarh (UBS)
Bhartidasan Institute of Management, Tiruchirapalli (BIM)
Symbiosis Group of Institutes

Could be thought of!!

ICFAI Business Schools
FORE School of Management, Delhi
Lal Bahadur Shastri Institute of Management Studies
Institute of Technology & Management (ITM)
Birla Institute of Management & Technology
Amity Business School (ABS)
Welingkar Institute of Management Development & Research
Institute of Management Studies, Indore (IMS)

Specialised Institutes

Indian Institute of Forest Management, Bhopal (IIFM)
Tata Institute of Social Sciences, Mumbai (TISS)
Xavier Institute of Social Sciences, Ranchi (XISS)
National Institute of Fashion Technology (NIFT)
Master of Finance & Control, Delhi (MFC)
Mudra Institute of Communications, Ahmedabad (MICA)
IIM A - Agri Business Management (ABM)
IIM C - Post Graduate Diploma in Computer Aided Management (PGDCM)
Institute of Rural Management, Anand (IRMA)
SP Jain Family Managed Business Programme

Anonymous
05-17-2004, 08:43 PM
I would really appreciate genuine criticism from all .
Your views on a college may help someone make a better career move while choosing a b-school.That truly should be the effort from all of us.
I wud like to say that XL deserves that place because of its ecellent placements and a strong reputation amongst HR-Heads.
Any furthur comments on all the colleges ranked can help someone so please share them.

Anonymous
05-22-2004, 07:55 PM
i guess mdi deserves a better deal it surely is better than nitie,sp jain and is close in league with iift if not better than it.
In fact there are some people who might even prefer mdi over iift
against the general trend of iift over mdi.

Anonymous
05-23-2004, 02:04 PM
i think welingkars is better than anity or birla and ims, indore is not worth mentioning
well has any one heard of xime? ne comments regarding it?

Top League

The Indian Institutes of Management (A, B, C, L, I, K)
Xavier Labour Relations Institute, Jamshedpur (XLRI)
Indian Institute of Foreign Trade, Delhi (IIFT)
Faculty of Management Studies, Delhi (FMS)
SP Jain institute of Management Research, Mumbai (SPJIMR)
National Institute of Technology and Industrial Engineering, Mumbai (NITIE)
Jamnalal Bajaj Institute of Management Studies, Mumbai (JBIMS)

Next League

Management Development Institute, Gurgaon (MDI)
Xavier’s Institute of Management, Bhubaneshwar (XIM)
The IIT - Schools of Management (B, D, Kgp, M, K) & IISc - Bangalore
Symbiosis Centre for Management & Human Research Development, Pune (SCMHRD)

Excellent

Narsee Monjee Institute of Management Studies, Mumbai (NMIMS)
TA Pai Management Institute, Manipal (TAPMI)
Institute of Management & Technology, Ghaziabad (IMT)
Nirma Institute of Management, Ahmedabad (NIM)
International Management Institute, Delhi (IMI)
KJ Somaiya institute of Management Studies, Mumbai ( KJSom)
University Business School, Chandigarh (UBS)
Bhartidasan Institute of Management, Tiruchirapalli (BIM)
Symbiosis Group of Institutes

Could be thought of!!

ICFAI Business Schools
FORE School of Management, Delhi
Lal Bahadur Shastri Institute of Management Studies
Institute of Technology & Management (ITM)
Birla Institute of Management & Technology
Amity Business School (ABS)
Welingkar Institute of Management Development & Research
Institute of Management Studies, Indore (IMS)

Specialised Institutes

Indian Institute of Forest Management, Bhopal (IIFM)
Tata Institute of Social Sciences, Mumbai (TISS)
Xavier Institute of Social Sciences, Ranchi (XISS)
National Institute of Fashion Technology (NIFT)
Master of Finance & Control, Delhi (MFC)
Mudra Institute of Communications, Ahmedabad (MICA)
IIM A - Agri Business Management (ABM)
IIM C - Post Graduate Diploma in Computer Aided Management (PGDCM)
Institute of Rural Management, Anand (IRMA)
SP Jain Family Managed Business Programme

sunil
06-04-2004, 08:28 PM
i was wondering which b-school may be called the best for an international job. I guess the options boil down to iim a ,iim b and iift.
It is really strange that iift with all the 'international' ness in it is second after iim a in terms of average international salary.
Maybe IIFT is not the best palce for overseas placement after all and it is second after IIM A .
IIM B is definitely third or maybe even second since as a percentage of batch placed abroad is slightly higher than iift.
So IIM A rules ,IIFT loses

truth
06-05-2004, 12:18 AM
:shock:

iift in league of IIMs

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :roll:

next in tow shud be daring to think beyond IIMS will be IIPM

anyway i heard that Harvard is going to build Aridam Chaudhary tower of Excellence at Harvard Business school.

This tower is in recognition to fraud people continuously and cheating in aorganised manner as every year loads of buffons join IIPM

sunil
06-05-2004, 02:24 PM
I guess 'truth' guy shud read the 1st line ="in terms of international placements".
Point no.1= According to coolavenues.com average overseas salary at IIM C,IIM L is lower than that of IIFT(others haven't given any data).In terms of percentage of batch placed overseas IIM K,IIM C is behind IIFT(IIM I has given no data)IIT B performs good but has too few students to be cosidered in overseas job big league dominated by IIM A
In case u want to doubt or raise questions over coolavenues.com's intergrity then ............
Point no. 2=U belong to some lower end IIM like IIM I, IIM K and believe by refering to IIM A and IIM I,K in same line as IIM's u can leverage our brandname for ur self then u are wrong.
Don't put all the IIM's in the same league, IIM A is simply way above the rest.

truth
06-05-2004, 07:08 PM
just getting a job in africa and trading in oil seeds does nott make IIFT job equal to any IIM job where ppl work in europe or states and have much superior profiles.

IIFT may have lot of internatiional postings but quality wise they are much lower than the jobs being offered at any of IIMs

IIFT lies somewhere around 10-11 in B-schools category

sachin
06-07-2004, 04:09 PM
I guess u are talking about the Olam Intl. jobs in trading (often in Africa).
Why don't u check Olam website where 2 out of 3 of its featured guys are from IIM's.
Olam recruits maximam uo. of people from IIFT but out of those 20 intl. placements of IIM A , 4-5 do go to Olam (and trade in AFRICA)
Except for 1 or 2 placements in IIM A, IIM B most belong to even lower quality jobs.
But then I guess u r slogan is no overseas placement at IIM I, IIM K and getting placed at IIM L at 30,000$(avg.) is better than 65,000$ job IIFT grads get since it is in trading field.

superunknown
08-02-2004, 04:21 PM
Cluster 1:
1) All the IIMs
2) XLRI
3) FMS
4) SP Jain
5) MDI

Cluster 2:
6) IIFT
7) XIM B
) NITIE
9) IIT - Mumbai
10) IIT - Delhi

Cluster 3:
11) NMIMS
12) SIBM
13) SCMHRD
14) IMT
15) IMI

Cluster 4:
16) KJ Somaiya
17) FORE
) LBS
19) AMITY
20) ICFAI

All the institutes (under each cluster) have been randomly arranged. Selection of institutes which fall under the same cluster should be based on a number of factors (cause all of them r equally good).
1) placements in your desired specialisation + salary, excluding CTC.
2) location
3) faculty
4) batch strength
5) infrastructure
6) cost of education

know_all
08-02-2004, 04:39 PM
a very sensible clustering done on a very sound analysis
good show

u r a cat material

s_08
08-07-2004, 08:23 PM
i donot understand why people traet all the IIMs in the same league ???
IIM A, B,C are different from L, I and K
and certainly others intis like XLRI, spj, nitie, fms, MDI are better than some of these IIMs ..
so the cluster shoule be

IIMA B C L
{xl, sp, nitie, mdi, fms may be iift etc}
{IIM I, K, xim, symbi, JBIMS }

nitin
08-08-2004, 01:01 PM
exactly I agree with s_08
this is stupid indeed
I guess rankings are like
1.IIM A.
.
a lot of gap
.
.
2-5=.IIM B, IIM C ,IIM L, XLRI

6-11.=FMS,SP JAIN,NITIE,IIFT,MDI and maybe Jamnalal Bajaj

12-15 IIM I, IIM K alongwith IIT Bombay,XIM etc.[/size]

know_all
08-08-2004, 02:51 PM
hi

well your ranking seems to be more emotional than any rational...

lacements at a, b and c has not much of didd and for middle and bottom it is much worse... the hype of a is hoopla

so dont brag tht much and if you consider position after 5 years , a guys arekicking not much earth ... so not much diff

sreenivas
08-08-2004, 07:15 PM
Hi
I appreciate all criticisms abt IIM-same league matter.

But let me give you a word of caution. even though you guys should take managerial guess work like this, a better job is to personally visit atleast the nearest IIM and discuss your feelings with real IIM guys ( from all IIMS )

why i said so is?
I have seen IIM-A and IIM-I and IIM-K.

what i guess is IIM-K has done a good work ahead of other IIMs in a way not to repeat some mistakes. ( WAIT, DON'T GET ANGRY ) You guys may be right if taken the matter in very near future. See Even the infrastucture and facilities, the library, faculty are fast devoloping in a way that i think when i try cat in 2008 or 2009 IIM-K will atleast equal IIM-A.

I accept even all criticisms, But please always explain them.

devang
08-08-2004, 09:24 PM
well with Prof Rameshan as strtaegy proff and Prof Krishna Kumar ,K will beat A and even harvard in year 2004 itself

Institutes are made by studends and faculty and not by buildings

with these kinda proff u wont be able to beat bajaj forget IIMs

curtz
08-09-2004, 03:13 PM
Well i appreciate all the opinions coming from different quarters....but blive me most of the opinions are emotional based....n biased bcoz of xternal influences.....i say don't look at short term achievements...of any school.....see where there alumnus are placed in industry 5-6 yrs after they have passed out n then make the judgement....

wut pay packet 1 gets at the time of campus recruitment does not matter....wut matters is the position in industry he or she holds 5-6 yrs down the line.....n u'll b amazed 2 find that many of d alumnus of the so called 10-20 ranked b-school r bossing over the elites....

i do blive iims r a class of their own especially iim-a....but the outsiders r fast catching up....

cat_aspirant
09-04-2004, 11:22 PM
Hi all,,

I don't know whether i should write in this topic or not and please don't mind if i am wrong but i feel that if you add the 5 b schools namely IIM L , I , K , FMS and JBIMS which didn't participate in this survey, the rankings will be more or less will be the same what we have been seeing over the years.

Ragarding MDI and IIM C i personally feel that IIM C is better than MDi, this might be my perception as a student but when the survy was conducted they had what students feel and in that IIM C was ahead of MDI. But on the other hand the parameters which BW choose might be reflection of what media and business houses percieves of. In last 5 years as far as i remember IIM C has not come up with something which can sustain them at the level they are so someone or other might challenege them if not now then may be some time later. I think this challenge has been put up by MDi and it should be taken in right spirit that do well and think right you want to stay at the top or other will topple you down.

Regarding other comments about various B schools. i really don't know wy people at cool avenues make so much hype about IIFT where people down south or west have never heard of any such college ( I m sorry, i belong to west) the only colleges we consider or i have heard of in North is IIM C, L , MDI and FMS. sorry again that my lack of knoweldge.

My only appeal to all b school grads is for a while why can't we put of something like " To each his own" or " MY dad is strongest". lets make it a better forum for interaction.

We all have heard a famous proverb " Guilty mind is Concious", so why r we boast no no IIFT os better or IIM C is better. are we guilty?? or we want to shout a loud to make other hear that there is something known as XIMB at the top.

For that matter i am pleased with people from IIM A, B and MDI who doesn't get into useless stuff lik discussing B Schools ranking

I am sorry if i offend anyone, but thats my perception

Adieu
Akash

zambo
09-05-2004, 08:57 AM
[code]Regarding other comments about various B schools. i really don't know wy people at cool avenues make so much hype about IIFT where people down south or west have never heard of any such college ( I m sorry, i belong to west) the only colleges we consider or i have heard of in North is IIM C, L , MDI and FMS. sorry again that my lack of knoweldge. [/code]

hey dude
r u really preparing for MBA!!! then i am afraid if by chance u do make it into a B-school(rare chance) that B-schoolm is surely doomed. can anybody tell me when and how IIM C shifted its campus to north INDIA- according to my frnd.

cat_aspirant
09-05-2004, 07:52 PM
Hey Zambo...

I m sorry if i hurt your emotions. Anyway have you ever spoken to a person from south and west in your entire life. I guess no right because this is the slang the use its just north india and south india nothing else.. i m sorry i used it being from west but i meant the same and it was quite obvious.

One more thing do u know why aspirants like me rarely come to this site because there are people like you, who by mistake got in some sidey college and think they have conquered the world. I have rarely seen people from top 10 B schools here in cool avenues.

You know i was working with ICICI Bank as a CA in Home LOans, and i got to know that ICICI calls only 9 colleges for summers thats 6 IIMs, XLRI, MDI and Bajaj. rest all are taken on differetials.

So tellme as a fresher what should i do?? Shouldn't i apply only to there 9 colleges and bcoz i don't want to be in Mumbai so i am left with 8 options thats it and Zambo i will make to a B School okie and one better than yours.

Sorry but no offence

Akash

zambo
09-08-2004, 12:44 AM
to akash
my friend chill down, u really r unaware abt MBA and B-schhols as is evident from ur immature and childish reply. grow up man, if u consider ICICI bank for shortlisting ur prefeered B-schools than i can imagine where u r heading and yes we will b blessed if guys like u with immature head and non-analytical minds coupled with jus a shuave agressive attitude dont make to top colleges like mine. god bless u and may u get college of ur dream- incidentally ICICI also visits Infinity business school in delhi, fore school and other ur type of b-schools, so happy sailing .

PS: if aspirants like u dont visit this site then it is healthy sign for genuine aspirants who only want correct transparent info rather than a naive babbler's analysis abt B-schools

hit back

zebra
09-08-2004, 01:28 AM
Chill Zambo , Akash and others

Guys rather than slandering each other and abusing this interaction forum , i think we shall strive to make CoolAvenues Forums as a positive interaction forums and should post our experience, etc and share with each other rather than spitting venom

hence Zambo & akash why dont u guys start a a thread about your campus life or if you have a question as in relevant forum

now to keep the discussion in the right direction, we are locking this forum, so no more mad discussions

chill

Zeb